Comments on: YouTubesday: The Great Global Warming Swindle

By: Toronto J

Toronto J — Sun, 25 Mar 2007 04:45:58 +0000

See this article– makes me wonder who is behind trying to keep us consuming more and more “stuff”:

http://news.independent.co.uk/environment/climate_change/article2355956.ece

By: biggandy

biggandy — Wed, 14 Mar 2007 13:40:04 +0000

Not my problem, works great in my firefox browser.

By: Rob

Rob — Tue, 13 Mar 2007 21:52:52 +0000

Why would I care if he was alive or dead?

You’re talking nonsense. His state of being doesn’t make it any different that for the last part of his career, he spouted nonsense. Same with Einstein, at least involving QM. It happens.

BTW: Something on your page causes my Firefox browser to freeze. Posting here is a nightmare. Had to reboot three times.

By: biggandy

biggandy — Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:16:23 +0000

Because you used him as an example and did not care enough about your logic, argument, or credibility to check if he was alive or dead, and even admitted it.

You made my point brilliantly.

By: Rob

Rob — Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:29:51 +0000

Why would I care if Arp is alive? He was incapable of accepting scientific data and astronomy moved on. I looked it up, and he still can’t admit that astronomy has passed him by. He’s gone from being a respected scientist to a crank who deserves pity for being unable to accept change.

He’s no longer worth the time, and neither are the global warming deniers. A decade ago, they might have had a point. At some point though, you have to accept reality. They can’t, like Arp can’t.

I’ve not made any point for you.

Have you actually read anything on RealClimate, or do you wish to read only what you agree with? I’ve worked through articles by Abdusamatov, looking to see if what he did was correct. It wasn’t — at best, his theory could only account for 70% of the global warming, and with recent research on the Maunder Minimum showing it was changes in ocean patterns and limited to portions of Europe and North America, that number has been knocked down to less than 20%.

By: biggandy

biggandy — Tue, 13 Mar 2007 18:18:51 +0000

“Sure, a few scientists claim that there’s no global warming. Halton Arp is still claiming that cosmic red shifts aren’t due to acceleration of the universe. Assuming Arp is alive — haven’t checked in a while.” Just like most people, stating a fact and then not doing a reality check to see if what they say is still valid. No wonder so many folk are duped by the fantasy science fiction of politicians promoting global warming, can’t even check facts in front of a computer.

Thanks for making my point for me.

By: Rob

Rob — Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:32:49 +0000

The program you’re referring to has been debunked multiple times. RealClimate is a good place to start.

The overwhelming evidence from multiple lines of study is that global warming is real and is mostly anthropogenic. It’s not a question of “right” vs. “left” but of facts, and the fact is the planet is being damaged.

The nonsense from the global warming deniers is in the same line as the nonsense the tobacco companies put out about tobacco not being harmful.

Perhaps a better example would be acid rain. Remember how people tried to deny that humans were the cause of acid rain, until it got so bad that the Reagan administration had to do something about it?

Sure, a few scientists claim that there’s no global warming. Halton Arp is still claiming that cosmic red shifts aren’t due to acceleration of the universe. Assuming Arp is alive — haven’t checked in a while. There’s people still claiming that General Relativity isn’t even close to being right or that Quantum Mechanics is totally and 100% wrong. What they say is still nonsense, but they are out there. It’s science. You get some people that get stuck on a wrong track — even Einstein had that problem with QM.